Frida continuation...
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I have being following this thread for some days now and I thinks is hi-time you guys should accept the truth.And the truth is this :1.There was a trainee from Kenya who came for a Project through the platform of AIESEC at Eygpt.2.Her experience during her stay at Egypt was not what she really expected so she left unhappily, bearing a serious and personal grugde against Egypt.Well, whatever , everyone has aired his/her opinion on this issue. If she was right or not depends on her personal judgement.On the other hand, her negative personal jugdement might to the next neighbour mean something else, something positive. vice versa.Please lets say something productive for the benefit of everyone in this community.Pleaes, let there be a new thread of discussionThanks.
I have a really stupid question: Why are people not able to handle negative feedback? I think freda is making merely very reasonable factual observations (i on my part would have lashed out much more). I understand that people want to live in their happy little bubble of fun and that hearing negative things is not ideal but it does not give you cancer or make you infertile.
Especially we as AIESECers claim to be open but being open does not only mean being open for the positive things but also open to accept negative things about ones own country. and of course generalisations are not quite true (personally I think pareta 80-20 works well) but even so, if this is the impression she got is the appropriate respons not "how can me minimise this problem for the next trainee"? is arguing that she shouldn't be so negative not inappropriate?
i mean i do appreciate looking at women and all that but the way the get oggled here is partially really very inappropriate. any i have made very many negative experiences in only three weeks. some of theme were due to a greedy nature of the people in question, other where even when they were trying to help but had no clue what i wanted (e.g. send me to a random museum although i ask for the catacombs cause that is where all the other tourists go).
it is not so much that people try to overcharge you at khan al khalili, that is just business, not more. it is how they treat you at other locations and maliciously abuse that you have an inherent trust in people.
that does of course not mean that i don't really enjoy my time in egypt and that i had very man positive experiences.
i guess what i want to say is: is it really appropriate, esp for us supposingly open AIESECers, to get defensive when someone critisised our country and culture? even if a generalisation is in your opinion not appropriate think about why someone would generalise: would they do it cause they only experienced it a small number of times or because it happened over and over again. it might not be something you might have ever noticed but that is what AIESEC is all about: learning to see things through the eyes of other people. They will have other experiences and insights in your country that you will get. so if you don't like what you hear don't deny it, don't dwell on irrelevancies (i.e. it doesn't matter whether it is a problem with all people or merely with 50%, it is just as much of a problem) and put you head into the sand (as has been mentioned by someone before me) but have a think about it and try to fix it.
just my two pence on the matter
I wonder if Frida was the only one who had written some evaluation of her traineeship in Egypt? ;o)
I have being following this thread for some days now and I thinks is hi-time you guys should accept the truth.And the truth is this :1.There was a trainee from Kenya who came for a Project through the platform of AIESEC at Eygpt.2.Her experience during her stay at Egypt was not what she really expected so she left unhappily, bearing a serious and personal grugde against Egypt.Well, whatever , everyone has aired his/her opinion on this issue. If she was right or not depends on her personal judgement.On the other hand, her negative personal jugdement might to the next neighbour mean something else, something positive. vice versa.Please lets say something productive for the benefit of everyone in this community.Pleaes, let there be a new thread of discussionThanks.
I have a really stupid question: Why are people not able to handle negative feedback? I think freda is making merely very reasonable factual observations (i on my part would have lashed out much more). I understand that people want to live in their happy little bubble of fun and that hearing negative things is not ideal but it does not give you cancer or make you infertile.
Especially we as AIESECers claim to be open but being open does not only mean being open for the positive things but also open to accept negative things about ones own country. and of course generalisations are not quite true (personally I think pareta 80-20 works well) but even so, if this is the impression she got is the appropriate respons not "how can me minimise this problem for the next trainee"? is arguing that she shouldn't be so negative not inappropriate?
i mean i do appreciate looking at women and all that but the way the get oggled here is partially really very inappropriate. any i have made very many negative experiences in only three weeks. some of theme were due to a greedy nature of the people in question, other where even when they were trying to help but had no clue what i wanted (e.g. send me to a random museum although i ask for the catacombs cause that is where all the other tourists go).
it is not so much that people try to overcharge you at khan al khalili, that is just business, not more. it is how they treat you at other locations and maliciously abuse that you have an inherent trust in people.
that does of course not mean that i don't really enjoy my time in egypt and that i had very man positive experiences.
i guess what i want to say is: is it really appropriate, esp for us supposingly open AIESECers, to get defensive when someone critisised our country and culture? even if a generalisation is in your opinion not appropriate think about why someone would generalise: would they do it cause they only experienced it a small number of times or because it happened over and over again. it might not be something you might have ever noticed but that is what AIESEC is all about: learning to see things through the eyes of other people. They will have other experiences and insights in your country that you will get. so if you don't like what you hear don't deny it, don't dwell on irrelevancies (i.e. it doesn't matter whether it is a problem with all people or merely with 50%, it is just as much of a problem) and put you head into the sand (as has been mentioned by someone before me) but have a think about it and try to fix it.
just my two pence on the matter
I wonder if Frida was the only one who had written some evaluation of her traineeship in Egypt? ;o)
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